Sixty Minutes Piece on Justice Department Selective Prosecution
CBS's Sixty Minutes tonight covered the story of the prosecution of former Alabama governor Don Siegelman. The news magazine show features comments by Republican insiders about what they allege to be politically motivated prosecutions against Democratic officials.
One Republican state attorney general summed up the Siegelman prosecution this way:
"They targeted [Gov.] Don Siegelman because they could not beat him fair and square. This was a Republican state and he was the one Democrat they could never get rid of."
The prosecution was led by a U.S. Attorney in Alabama married to the campaign manager of Siegelman's Republican gubernatorial opponent.
You may view the whole feature below.








Why aren't the Democrats getting him out of jail
I don't understand why he's still there with all this insider information.
What are the democrats doing about this? What is congress doing?
How come there's no comment from anyone about this story?
This HAS to be investigated!
WHNT originally claimed last night that the blocked segment was due to “a techincal(sic) problem with CBS out of New York.” But that claim was contradicted by CBS in New York, who told Horton, that “there is no delicate way to put this: the WHNT claim is not true. There were no transmission difficulties. The problems were peculiar to Channel 19.”
WHNT now has a different explanation on its website:
WHNT says it “will re-air the broadcast of that segment.”
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/25/60-minutes-blocked/
Attorneys for jailed former Alabama governor
Attorneys for imprisoned former Alabama Gov. Don Siegelman on Monday called for a special prosecutor after a key government witness claimed that he was forced to write out his testimony to get his story straight.
Vince Kilborn, an attorney for Siegelman who contends Republican politics was behind the Democrat's prosecution, said the defense was never told of any written notes by Nick Bailey, a former Siegelman aide whose testimony was crucial to the government.
CBS's "60 Minutes" reported Sunday that Bailey said prosecutors met with him some 70 times and had him repeatedly write out his testimony because they were frustrated with his recollection of events.
Bailey, who pleaded guilty in the corruption case and served as a cooperating witness, was interviewed off-camera in prison by CBS, which reported in the segment: "He told us the prosecutors were so frustrated they made him write his proposed testimony over and over to get his story straight."
The written notes, if they existed, could have damaged the credibility of Bailey's story, Kilborn told The Associated Press.
Louis Franklin, the assistant U.S. attorney who led the Siegelman prosecution, called Bailey's claim "absolutely not true."
"We don't ask witnesses to write out their statements," Franklin said. "If Nick is saying he wrote out some notes, he did that on his own. He certainly did not share that with us."
Siegelman was convicted on six bribery-related and one obstruction of justice charge in 2006 and began serving a sentence of more than seven years last June. Bailey was the key witness who claimed Siegelman appointed then-HealthSouth CEO Richard Scrushy to a hospital regulatory board in exchange for Scrushy arranging $500,000 in contributions to a campaign for a state lottery spearheaded by Siegelman.
"We got certain interviews that showed Bailey was changing his testimony ... but 70 meetings is not close to what's reflected in those documents," Kilborn said.
Kilborn said the evidence would warrant a new trial and that he planned to make the request for a special prosecutor directly to Attorney General Michael Mukasey or President Bush. The Alabama Democratic Party, Siegelman's family and Scrushy attorney Art Leach joined the call for an outside investigator to look at the case.
The Justice Department declined to comment on their comments and said it would "respond appropriately" to concerns about Bailey's testimony if they are raised in court.
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"60 Minutes" Broadcast Blocked in Alabama...
Parts of "60 Minutes" Broadcast Blocked in Alabama...
Larisa Alexandrovna
If you do not yet know who Don Siegelman is or what has happened in this country, then let me ask you to please read the following articles and visit the following websites, before I tell you what the latest developments are:
Introduction
The Permanent Republican Majority Part I
The Permanent Republican Majority Part II
The Permanent Republican Majority Part III
Harper's Excellent Coverage via Scott Horton HERE
My blog, at-largely, HERE
And this evening's 60 Minutes broadcast HERE
Also Don Siegelman support site
Soviet America
Now, let me tell you what has been going on. As 60 Minutes was putting its show together, the White House put pressure on CBS -- the parent company -- to kill the show. Over the last few days, as word got out that the 60 Minutes show would air tonight, Karl Rove's associates began planting defamatory stories about journalists working on this story (see example here) and attacking the whistle-blower who came forward, Dana Jill Simpson. If you recall, Ms. Simpson testified, under oath, to Congress about Karl Rove's involvement in politicizing the DOJ. What you may not know, however, is that her house mysteriously caught fire and she was run off the road in the weeks leading up to her testimony.
What you may also not know is that Governor Siegelman's house was broken into twice during his trial as was his attorney's office.
Yesterday, the attacks on Simpson and journalists increased with a series of emails from the Alabama GOP. See Here.
Tonight was something truly unseen in US history. During the 60 Minutes broadcast and ONLY during the Don Siegelman portion -- the screen went black for Huntsville residents and Mobile residents. There are other reports of other locations, but I have not yet confirmed those. In Florida, a series of strange ads were running about the FISA bill and how Democrats are not tough on terrorism, apparently during the 60 Minutes hour and also right before 60 Minutes, but not after (still trying to confirm when the ads stopped running).
In other words, in the United States of America, a man is imprisoned for being a Democrat. When reporters attempt to get this story out, they are threatened and smeared. When all else fails, the public is not allowed to see the news. This is not acceptable and I -- as a US citizen -- demand that Congress investigate this series of blackouts immediately. Any company involved in this must have their FCC license pulled too. Karl Rove may be gone from office, but he clearly is not gone from power. So long as his buddy, George W. Bush, continues to occupy the White House -- what used to be a symbol of how a nation could both be governed and be free -- we will continue toward abuse after imperial, no Soviet, abuse against us. That too is unacceptable.
Contact Congress now, non-stop, and demand a full investigation into what caused this selective blackout. You can find your member's contact information here. If no investigation happens ... If no one in Congress responds, then you will know finally and fully the ugly truth: we are no longer a democracy . And if we are no longer a democracy, then presidential election can fix the problem, because something that no longer exists cannot be fixed. Sadly, at that point, the only path left to us is the one I most abhor.
Update:
We are now being told that it was a technical issue with CBS in New York:
We apologize that you missed the first segment of 60 Minutes tonight featuring "The Prosecution of Don Siegelman."
It was a techincal(sic) problem with CBS out of New York. We are working with them right now to see if we can re-broadcast the segment.
Please be patient with us during this time. We are doing our best to correct the problem.
Excuse me? Are they trying to tell us that a glitch in New York ONLY happened in Alabama -- which is the topic of the 60 Minutes broadcast -- and ONLY during the Don Siegelman segment? Are you kidding me? We have selective prosecution and now we have selective news delivery?
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Selective prosecution?
Isn't it bad enough that the GOP has adopted the tact of calling shotgun on issues they are guilty of themselves? Do we have to listen to opportunistic Dems who are following their lead?
Could Mr. Conyers please explain the difference between what the DOJ did, and his refusal to impeach?
In the end, crimes were allowed, because prosecuting the perpetuators would damage the party's chance of attaining a bulletproof majority, in both instances.
When I think of the legal reasons why Mr. Conyers doesn't push for the impeachment of BushCo, it boils down to the same thing. Mr. Conyers has selected party loyalty, because to enforce the laws of America means that half the DLC will be sitting in Gitmo next to Bush and his Daddy's Taliban buddies.
When I see names like Rockefeller, Durbin, and Sylvestre getting non-stop favorable press, while knowing that these same rat bastards are the ones who sided with the rat bastards who cheerled America into becoming a worldwide laughingstock, it makes me want to puke.
We are witnessing the Democratic flipside of the swiftboat campaign. Instead of swiftboating to damage, they use polls to determine what the Constitutional lefts concerns are, then they allow the most prosecutable of the criminals to spearhead the efforts that they know will create the warm and fuzzy feeling needed for us to forget that they've been raping us.
Jeez, when it's written like that, they sound more like pedophiles buying bicycles for their victims, so the victim doesn't prevent his/her next rape by calling the cops.
The Gonzo/Bush team fired attorneys to prevent damage to his party. Conyers/Pelosi are refusing to push impeachment so the negative fallout won't damage their party.
It's all just organized crime to me.
Right on target Mark,
This kind of crap goes on because it is being allowed to go on. Pelosi and the rest of the worthless power hungry DNC dolts think that every time we hear about some kind of GOP corruption, we'll want to go out and vote the DEMS into the White House.
The Democrats don't have the moral integrity to investigate and hold to account criminals of the worst kind right now, why do they think they will convince me,ort anyone elsefor that matter, that all of a sudden, when it's their "man" in the White House, they will have the moral integrity to have oversight and accountability?
Alabama Dems call for special prosecutor...
Breaking: Alabama Dems call for special prosecutor...
From a presser I just got:
Alabama Democratic Party
For Immediate Release:
February 25, 2008
Contact: Jim Spearman (334) 262-2221 Cell: (205) 712-2350
Alabama Democratic Party Calls for Special Prosecutor
Dems Say FCC Should Launch Inquiry into Huntsville CBS Blackout
The Alabama Democratic Party today called on the US Justice Dept. and the US House Judiciary Committee to appoint a special prosecutor into the allegations of the political prosecution of former Alabama Gov. Don Siegelman after the facts and interviews were released by CBS Television Network in their 60 Minutes program this past Sunday night.
Executive Director, Jim Spearman says there is too much smoke and too many facts for DOJ and Congress to ignore. "Abuse of the federal prosecutorial system for partisan political gain must be taken very seriously. The accusations by the 52 former state attorneys general, including the former republican AG from Arizona Grant Woods should be taken into account by the US Attorney General", Spearman says. Congress should not delay in taking the next step to call witnesses and to hold those not answering supeanoes in contempt of Congress.
For the Alabama Republican Party to issue its statement yesterday prior to the airing of the 60 Minutes segment trying to discredit CBS even before the program airs shows that indeed republicans may have something to hide. "How can the ALGOP really try to discredit a former republican AG who is now a co-chair of their US Presidential Nominee's campaign effort,"Spearman notes.
Also today, Alabama Democratic Chairman Joe Turnham says he will send a letter to the Federal Communications Commission asking for a formal inquiry into the CBS Huntsville affiliate black out of the the Siegelman airing. It has come to the attention of many Democrats in North Alabama that the principal owners of WHNT are Bush Pioneers and major republican donors. Many suspect that enormous pressure was put on CBS to not air the Siegelman story. If CBS received political pressure to stifle the first amendment rights of the network or affiliate, the FCC and Congress should take appropriate oversight into the matter.
Sounds to me like they are pissed and are not going to take it anymore. Can we move these folks into replace our current Congressional Democrats?
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What’s Wrong With The Politicized Siegelman Prosecution?
By: Christy Hardin Smith Monday February 25, 2008 8:35 am
In a prior post, we talked about the quasi-judicial role that prosecutors play: review the facts and the laws involved, and determine whether the conduct in question and the evidence you have requires charges in the interests of justice. When a prosecutor deviates from this -- forcing the evidence to fit the law in any way they can to justify prosecution -- then you have a very big public problem.
It is the public's trust that is violated by this misconduct. Via Scott Horton:
First, we know that the first two career prosecutors assigned to the case, including the most experience prosecutors who worked on it, came to the same conclusion that Grant Woods did: no reasonable prosecutor would ever have charged this case. The Justice Department has consistently made false statements about the roles of the two earlier prosecutors, and their role only emerged in the last few months. It’s extremely noteworthy that throughout the history of this case, whenever a career prosecutor concluded that charges should not be brought, that career prosecutor ran into a bump in his career and was off the case. The message to the remaining career prosecutors was plenty clear. In fact it is clear that the career prosecutors’ views were overridden by political appointees driven by a strong partisan political agenda.
Second, they claim that the case was brought on a fair reading of the law. It was not, and indeed reasonable career prosecutors never would have acted on the basis of the reading they advanced, and a fair detached judge never would have allowed the case to go forward. This case offered neither.
Third, they claim that evidence was produced to sustain the charges. But the key evidence that the prosecutors brought forward was false, and they knew it was false. In this case proceeding on the basis of that false evidence was a corrupt wielding of prosecutorial power, pursued for a corrupt partisan political end—the elimination of a political adversary. They withheld the Bailey notes which would have demonstrated that his memory on this was conflicted or wrong and would therefore have devastated his testimony. There is mounting evidence that one or more witnesses were unethically pressured to give false evidence or face retaliation.... (emphasis mine)
If this were the sole instance of politicized prosecutorial conduct under the Bush Administration, it would still be a huge problem. But it isn't. Not by a long shot.
Which makes this yet another enormous red flag in a long, long line of systematic perversion of justice and the rule of law in an "ends justifies the means" scheme hatched by the Bush Administration. It reeks. And any decent, upstanding person in this country -- regardless of political affiliation -- ought to be outraged that the mechanisms of their government would be used for such a dirty, appalling political scheme.
To deliberately hold back evidence which is exculpatory in nature, calling into question the fundamental fairness of proceedings, raises serious questions of prosecutorial misconduct. Should it be shown that there was a broad-ranging political conspiracy to misuse the resources of the USAtty's office for political purposes? That the name in the center of all of this fetid, festering scourge is none other than Karl Rove? Well, that's just par for the Turdblossom, isn't it?
Except it can also be criminally and civilly actionable. More sunshine, now...
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You can lead a republican to the truth, but you can't make him think it...
Sunshine????
Do I have to remind Ms. Smith of Scooter Libby? Where is Mr.Libby again after being convicted for obstruction of justice? Roaming free after committing perjury to a federal grand jury about his involvement in the Valerie Plame treason case. So, if she really thinks anything is actionable she is of course either blinded by false hope or really stupid.
Oh yeah she forgot, without impeachment consequences are "off the table". It's the only true power congress still has.
Use it or lose it.
Former Gov. Siegelman is a Political Prisoner
The Republican AG who was interviewed in the 20/20 piece stated that the prosecution and imprisonment of Mr. Siegelman was politically motivated and expressed his opinion that what had been done was wrong. When asked why he was speaking out as he was a Republican, his answer was that he was an American first.
Mr. Chairman, isn't it time for the House Judiciary Committee to subpoena Mr. Rove and the others who are accused of misusing the DoJ and even of manufacturing false "evidence" to imprison an "inconvenient" political opponent to clear the way for his Republican opposition?
Political prisoners in America? Men and women continuing to be sent needlessly to die in Iraq? The US Treasury being bankrupted in order to keep financing bush's Iraq folly? Spying on Americans in violation of the 4th amendment? Willful negligence allowing the destruction of much of an entire US city, and refusal to rebuild said City--while claiming the need to rebuild the infrastructure of Iraq (even as it's being further destroyed on an ongoing daily basis)? Outsourcing the jobs of large portions of the American workforce? Importing of toxic toys and foods, lack of inspection of domestic foods? Pollution of the environment while the EPA looks the other way?
When will the Democrats in Congress, especially the "Bush Dogs" finally understand that the People have Had Enough? When will they themselves have had enough? Things are not going to get any better in the next 11 months. In fact, things will keep getting worse and unless Congress intervenes now, we will see more political prisoners, more deaths in Iraq; more US cities vulnerable because of bushie incompetence, more toxins in toys, food, water and air; and more rovian "Dirty Tricks" and character destroying lies which could well assure another Republican presidency if Congress doesn't demand accountability now.
It all trickles down from the top, Reed!
Now, it seems that the DOJs in the states feel they, too, can do as they god-damned well please. What justice? Maybe, the Department of Justice should change its name to the Department of Political Expedience instead?
This story is so sickening. The pursuit by many to do in one man who was innocent to begin with. The GOP's really good at that, particularly, if Rove's in on it.
Kucinich is dealing with the same kinds of power trying to do him in.
It seems laws just don't count anymore. Eventually, this will result in more violence in this country.
"There is nothing to fear but fear itself."
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Well, that's Alabama - - - but in addition - - -
Arkansas is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Rockefeller Family - - -
Utah, Idaho, and the Department of Interior are owned by the Mormons
New York and New Jersey used to be owned by the Gambinos, but now are under the wing of the Mafiya.
Arizona is wholly Mob-owned and operated, and Senator McCain is married to the Mob,
And then of course we have Cook County Illinois - - - notorious for living tombstones - - - and Florida, where the ex-governor was mob - conflicted, and California, which is in terminal gridlock between the Governator and the Families - and AIPAC of NATIONAL influence - it's a wonder we can get ANY semblance of an HONEST election!
Dan Abrams is speaking out LOUD on behalf of
Siegelman -- asking that he be released from jail, pending the appeal. (Feb. 27, 2008)
"There is nothing to fear but fear itself."
Franklin D. Roosevelt
What we're witnessing here
is the implosion of Democracy in America. This blog is providing ample proof that partisan politics is now trumping all functions of government. This blog is providing proof that it's on both sides of the aisle, not just the Republicans. Just because "the game" is played two different ways by each side does not mean it's OK to play "the game" with our government.
Today, we have partisan politics trumping even the justice department with selective prosecutions - a game both sides of the aisle are guilting of playing. We can be sure that when Democrats gain the White House, the roles will reverse and they will selectively prosecute while Republicans play the self righteous outraged citizens. Neither side will have our countries best interests in mind.
Democracy is already dead. We're just too optimistic to accept it yet.
GOP Engages In ‘Political Extortion
Just wondering what's it going to take to finally get the guts and put these people away. Or does this explain why nothing gets done?
GOP Engages In ‘Political Extortion,’ Draws Up Hit List Of Democratic Lawmakers
In 2007, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi pushed forward on her pledge to run the most ethical Congress in history and established the House Ethics Enforcement Task Force. She charged the group with setting up an Office of Congressional Ethics, an “independent ethics panel” composed of six “nonpartisan professional staff” members who were jointly appointed by the Speaker and Minority Leader. Lawmakers and lobbyists would be barred from serving.
The House is expected to vote on the task force’s proposal on Thursday. Even though this committee will be independent and nonpartisan, the GOP is already resisting. In an attempt to dissuade Democrats from voting for the ethics office, senior House Republican aides are drawing up a hit list of 10 Democratic lawmakers who would be pursued with ethics investigations if the measure passes. National Journal reports (sub. req’d):
Senior House Republican aides are drawing up a list of Democrats to target if the House votes Thursday to create an independent panel to weigh ethics complaints against lawmakers.
In a move that one top Democratic lawmaker called “political extortion,” House GOP aides said Tuesday the names of more than 10 Democrats are likely to end up on the list and that investigations would be pursued against all of them.
It is not clear how much support House Republican leaders are giving to the staff effort, but several GOP leadership aides who were asked about the list said they were aware of it.
Democratic lawmakers on the GOP list include John Murtha (PA), Jim Moran (VA), and John Conyers (MI), among others.
Pursuing investigations against lawmakers is one thing. But holding off on the investigations to blackmail lawmakers is another. “If they have legitimate ethics concerns about any member, why wouldn’t they bring it forward now?” wondered Rep. Michael Capuano (D-MA), who chairs the ethics task force.
If Boehner is truly serious about his pledge “to enforce a tougher ethical standard in the 110th Congress,” he should disavow this hit list.
GOP Engages In ‘Political Extortion
Now would be a good time to draw up a similar list
on some of the illegitimate slugs in the GOP - and a whale of a good time to START Impeachment proceedings against Cheney!
I remember a local campaign in my younger days - for Mayor. It started out to be your usual muddy mess - but one of the candidates gave an interview to the local paper - he said, "If he doesn't stop telling lies about me, I'll tell the truth about him!" It was quite a clean campaign. (And in this instance, Boehner CANNOT stand to have a REAL investigation of his activities in the DeLay organization!)
Kory, I essentially agree with you!
But, I feel that morality has collapsed in this country. There is no moral fibre in the workings of our democracy anymore. No concern about honesty, facts, integrity, etc. -- only 'can I get there first' kind of thing.
Think about it -- if someone or entity is the first to dish it out, the rest are left to deal with it -- and if they don't deal with it, then it's a fait accomplis. This, essentially, is what has been going on in our government. The Bush Administration has had absolutely no concern for the rule of law and has simply done as it has pleased -- leaving the rest to deal with it and, as you and I know, it hasn't been dealt with. GREEN LIGHT for BushCo right down the line.
It seems to me, as I'm sure it does to you, there comes a time -- you must recognize reality and the reality is that you can't play ball any longer. That there is no amount of appeasement that will suffice BushCo, one way or another -- they will continue on their path of destruction and death, only more sped up now, in their last "hurrah," and, maybe, worse, as Iran is STILL in their picture, despite NIE, despite, anything, really!
(Kory, if you haven't already read it, I urge you to read, John Perkins' book, "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" -- so much of what has/is happening is explained. It is a forthright assessment by a man "in the know" and what has really, really gone on -- rest assured, George H.W. Bush, was in there -- right down the line. Note: It has been our ignorance to so many facts that has led average Americans into this "fix." It if there is anything good to be said about the Internet, it is that we can search and search and come up with the TRUTH. Good thing, too. None of us can be fooled any longer.)
"There is nothing to fear but fear itself."
Franklin D. Roosevelt
I read it when it came out - - -
I wonder how he managed to survive to get it published! Assassination has ALWAYS been a tool of the Tories among us, who sincerely believe that if you do not wish to kowtow to the E$tabli$hment, you're better off dead. Ours is not the ONLY generation that has been traumatized by the deaths "Accidental "or otherwise,, of inconvenient people. And SOMETIMES it has just been NUMBERS "They" were after, to increase the level of 'Schrecklichkeit, as in the case of 9/11, wherein people who had actually evacuated were sent back into the buildings to die when the explosives went off.
I cannot wait until we have a Democratic President and a workable majority in BOTH Houses, so that we can get a REAL investigation of what happened. Inquiring minds want to know, and if the JFK - RFK - King, JFKJr. Wellstone, and other Political assassinations STILL have legs, imagine the residual impact of some 3000 souls! And Rodriguez is still alive and kicking, I can't imagine why - - -
Anyone still willing to bet that the oncoming war with the notorious terrorist Nation of Iran is not going to result in the imposition of Martial Law, and the "Temporary" cancellation of the November elections? Only IMPEACHMENT will stop that crime if B&C want it, and there are a quarter of a million good reasons to start hearings tomorrow. A good offense is the best defense, and if the Republican attack dogs are going to go after you, JC. it would be a good idea to muzzle the biggest SOB of the lot.
GO FOR IT!
Republicans Better Prepare for their own Ethics Defense Teams
The Democrats, if they had any sense at all, would be at this moment be telling Boehner that they will bring their own charges against their republican “colleagues” if he follows through with his threats. Then the Democrats must follow through and make their own list of republican ethics violators—and they certainly have a long list of violators and violations to document. Just a partial list follows:
Senator Larry Craig who, not only isn’t resigning, but is accepting applications for summer interns.
Republican Senator David Vitter, whose wife and God forgive him, so it’s okay with the hypocritical republicans that he’s got character issues--even though it wasn’t okay with the same hypocritical republicans that Bill Clinton had the same type of character issues.
This kos diary lists the Abramoff 65, at least 42 of whom are still in Congress. This would include the California representatives who were very possibly instrumental in using the DoJ to stop Carol Lam’s investigation into their possible links to Duke Cunningham and/or cozy relationships with defense contractors.
The list goes on and on, but somehow I predict that Boehner will see the light before following through with his threats, because as CREW points out: As far as Corruption, scandals, and lack of ethics go—this is one area where there is true “Bipartisanship” in Congress.
Anyone in Congress presently, who doesn’t know that, is either very naive or very arrogant to believe that their own personal dirt--and it's pretty much a "slam dunk" that with the present lobbying system that is in place, they all have some degree of muck stuck to them--won’t be uncovered and highly publicized by some enterprising investigative reporter or
citizen blogger(s).
White House technology lost more than 1M emails
'Primitive' White House technology lost more than 1M emails over 1,000 days, former employee says
02/27/2008 @ 9:17 am
Filed by Nick Juliano
Questions remain over Cheney's missing Plame e-mails
The internal workings of the White House that caused it to lose perhaps millions of internal e-mails over several years is becoming clearer, but with that sharper focus comes diminishing hopes among Democrats and open-government activists that history will ever get the full picture of how the Bush administration operated.
At a Capitol Hill hearing yesterday, a former White House computer technician outlined the administration's shortcomings in implementing a "primitive" e-mail archiving system that created a high risk the information would be lost.
Steven McDevitt, who worked for the administration from 2002 to 2006, also doubled previously reported estimates of the number of days of missing e-mails. Investigators for the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee previously said e-mails were missing for 473 days; McDevit said in written testimony to the committee that the number was closer to 1,000 days. He also said at least 1 million e-mails were believed to have gone missing; activists have estimated the number of missing e-mails is closer to 10 million.
The exact number of missing e-mails is unknown, but several days on which e-mails were not archived covered key dates in a Justice Department inquiry into the roles of Vice President Dick Cheney and his aides in leaking the identity of covert CIA agent Valerie Plame Wilson. As RAW STORY previously reported, no e-mails were archived on the very day the probe was announced and White House officials were ordered to maintain anything that could become evidence in the investigation that ended the conviction of I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Cheney's former chief of staff, on perjury and obstruction of justice charges.
As The Associated Press reports, Tuesday's hearing shed some light on what happened to e-mails from the Vice President's office, but many questions remain unanswered.
For the first time, a former White House computer technician went public with the details. Steven McDevitt revealed in written statements submitted to Congress how a plan was developed to try to recover the missing e-mail for [Special Prosecutor Patrick] Fitzgerald.
Ultimately, 250 pages of electronic messages were retrieved from the personal e-mail accounts of officials in Cheney's office, but whether that amounted to all the relevant e-mail is a question that may never be answered.
McDevitt made clear that it was a sensitive issue inside the White House.
"I worked with ... White House Counsel on efforts to provide an explanation to the special prosecutor," McDevitt wrote. "This included providing a briefing to the special prosecutor's staff on this subject."
Rep. Henry Waxman, the committee's chairman, also said during Tuesday's hearing that the Republican National Committee, which had hosted e-mail addresses used for official business by White House adviser Karl Rove and others, "has no intention of trying to restore the missing White House e-mails."
The Washington Post provides some background:
Administration officials have acknowledged that Rove and many other White House officials routinely used RNC accounts for government business, despite rules requiring that they conduct such business through official communications channels. The RNC deleted all e-mails until 2004, when it exempted White House officials from its e-mail purging policy. About 80 White House aides used RNC accounts for official government business, committee staff members said. Rove, for example, sent or received 140,000 e-mails on RNC servers from 2002 to 2007, and more than half involved official ".gov" accounts, the panel has said. The RNC dispute is part of a broader debate over whether the Bush administration has complied with long-standing statutory requirements to preserve official White House records -- including those reflecting potentially sensitive policy discussions -- for history and in case of future legal demands.
Whether historians will ever get a full picture of internal deliberations remains to be seen. But Tuesday's hearing went a long way toward exposing problems with the White House and RNC. McDevitt, according to the Associated Press, also revealed that:
_The White House had no complete inventory of e-mail files.
_Until mid-2005 the e-mail system had serious security flaws, in which "everyone" on the White House computer network had access to e-mail. McDevitt wrote that the "potential impact" of the security flaw was that there was no way to verify that retained data had not been modified.
_There was no automatic system to ensure that e-mails were archived and preserved.
The National Security Archive, which is suing the White House over its poor record keeping, said Tuesday that the hearing revealed incompetence on the part of the White House, which also ignored warnings that its e-mails were not being archived in accordance with legal requirements.
"The White House's witnesses disclaimed knowledge and responsibility for the e-mail problem," said Meredith Fuchs, the group's general counsel, in a statement. "The [National Archives] witnesses said that they are waiting for the White House to take action. But no one is doing anything and time is running out."
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Congress to Bush: You've Lost Mail
By Dan Froomkin
Special to washingtonpost.com
Wednesday, February 27, 2008; 1:30 PM
The Bush White House has made a mockery of the Presidential Records Act and its requirement that official White House records -- including e-mails -- be preserved for posterity.
At a congressional hearing yesterday, it became clear for the first time that top White House officials knowingly adopted a new e-mail system in 2002 that was riddled with technical problems that not only risked data loss but could easily be exploited by those who wished to keep their e-mails from public scrutiny. We've known for a while that a lot of White House e-mails, by some accounts numbering in the millions, are missing and have possibly been erased. Yesterday's discovery raises the question of whether that happened by accident -- or by design. And the White House's unhurried approach to addressing the problem is hardly reassuring.
Similarly, we already knew that Karl Rove and many of his colleagues routinely used Republican National Committee e-mail accounts for official business over a period of years, thereby avoiding any archiving process whatsoever. But House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Henry Waxman made the startling announcement yesterday that the RNC has not tried -- and has no intention of trying -- to restore any of those e-mails.
In addition to the many detailed questions prompted by yesterday's hearing, there is one overarching issue: Can White House officials coast all the way to Jan. 20 without being exposed in such a way that the press and the public take full notice of what they've done?
At least when it comes to the e-mail scandal, there are signs they can. The coverage today was muted at best.
Reason to Be Suspicious
Here is the report from the Democratic committee staff issued yesterday. Its main bullet points:
-- "The White House has not had a reliable system for preserving White House e-mails since 2002, when the White House made the decision to stop using the Automatic Records Management System (ARMS) used by the Clinton White House." This despite repeated warnings to that effect from technologists inside the White House and from officials at the National Archives.
-- "Until mid-2005, the system that the White House used for preserving e-mails had serious security flaws." This meant that White House aides could potentially have viewed, changed and/or erased their own or others' ostensibly secure e-mail archives.
-- "The White House has refused to cooperate with efforts by the National Archives to ensure the preservation of White House e-mails."
-- "The process of recovering missing e-mails from RNC servers and White House back-up tapes has not begun."
At yesterday's hearing, two officials from the White House's Office of Administration expressed confidence that the e-mails were not really missing. They said that all e-mails should have been captured by the ad hoc "journaling system" adopted after the White House changed e-mail programs. And they insisted that, in the worst-case scenario, they could always get the missing e-mails off their backup tapes.
But an anecdote in the report belies that confidence. There's been exactly one previous attempt to find and restore missing e-mails. It took place in late 2005 and early 2006, after special counsel Patrick J. Fitzgerald subpoenaed the White House for e-mails related to the leak of Valerie Plame's identity. White House officials found that several days' worth of e-mails from the vice president's office were missing in their entirety. After several failed attempts, officials did finally manage to find some e-mails, there's no reason to believe they found all of them.
From the House report: "The difficulties the White House encountered in recovering e-mails for Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald . . . undermine its claim that the journaling system was adequate. According to documents provided and shown to the Committee, the journaling archive system contained no e-mails from the Office of the Vice President for important dates: September 30, 2003, to October 6,2003.
"In an effort to recover the e-mails, the White House restored backup tapes for these days. These backup tapes also contained no journaled e-mails or .pst files for those dates for the Office of the Vice President. The only e-mails that could be recovered and provided to the Special Counsel were e-mails that the White House was able to restore from the personal email accounts of officials in the Vice President's office."
The White House team eventually "recovered 17,956 e-mails from these individual mailboxes on the backup tape and used these as their basis to search for e-mails responsive to the Special Counsel's request," the report says.
But consider this fact: "A restoration of personal mailboxes from a backup tape does not recover any e-mails deleted by the user before the backup tape was made."
The backup tape the White House used to restore the e-mails was a snapshot taken fully two weeks after the gap in question.
Also consider that according to Steven McDevitt, a former White House computer technician, until mid-2005 "the file servers and the file directories used to store the retained email . . . were accessible by everyone on the EOP network." McDevitt said the "potential impact" of this security flaw was that there was "[n]o verification that data retained has not been modified."
Here are the written responses from McDevitt to questions from the committee, and a series of other supporting documents provided to the committee by the White House and the archives.
Here are the prepared texts of opening statements by Alan R. Swendiman, director of the Office of Administration, Theresa Payton, the White House's chief information officer, and Allen Weinstein, the archivist of the United States.
Blogger emptywheel liveblogged the contentious hearing.
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You can lead a republican to the truth, but you can't make him think it...
Maakes Nixon look like a petty crook, doesn't it?
One sometimes wonders just WHAT is left to go into the "Bu$h Pre$idential Library," doesn't it?
He closed down the EPA and the USGS Libraries and destroyed TONS of VITAL materials - will the cover-up continue after he is gone? (F he goes, thhat is ) - can Congress rescind National Security Policy Directives issued by a sitting pResident? If so, 51 would be a good place to start.
Deliberate Destruction of Incriminating Evidence, Plain & Simple
This is an Administration that manufactured evidence to start an unnecessary war, that needlessly sent (and continues to send) people to die; that imprisoned people without trial; that tortured people; that jailed political opponents and that packed the government with incompetent and robotic "bushies"; that allowed a city to be destroyed and then refused to do much to rebuild it; and that encouraged and nutured a climate of corruption.
Such an Administration wouldn't hesitate to destroy all evidence that might possibly incriminate any of the guilty individuals for their participation in the abovementioned crimes.
And, unless impeachment hearings are instituted, requiring testimony under oath of the abovementioned criminals, they will get away with destruction of evidence and violation of the laws requiring that Presidential records be preserved.
Assist or Arrest... John, you choose.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elizabeth-holtzman/crimes-in-high-places_b_88825.html
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I can't help it but...
One of the defining characteristics to what it means to be an American, is the freedom from a form of Government that needs to spy on it’s own people; FREEDOM FROM TYRANNY. Thus The Fourth Amendment.
R E M E M B E R:
THEY(sic) HATE US FOR OUR FREEDOMS…
And so, THEY(sic) lobby and debate the merits to undermining that characteristic, that freedom, that Right. When Americans and America lose that Right and freedom, who wins?
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WHAT DOES CONGRESS SUPPORT AND DEFEND
IF NOT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE USA?
“Contempt Takes the Next Step”—Pelosi Ltr. Today to Mukasey
Latest step in the Bush/Mukasey stonewalling about the House's Contempt of Congress charges against Miers and Bolton: Kagro X’s front page Daily kos diary discusses this letter, dated February 28, 08, from Speaker Pelosi to AG Mukasey, demanding that the DoJ pursue the contempt charges against Miers and Bolton: (emphasis mine)
As Kagro X says, “the clock is ticking”. I know I'll be watching to make sure that the Democrats continue to use all legal means at their disposal to make certain that the Executive follows the laws that the Executive requires the rest of the citizens of this country to follow.
USDA Shuts Down Congressional Audit (Contempt, Part II?)
The bush administration escalates it’s contempt of Congress: USDA Shuts Down Congressional Audit:
Mr. Chairman, isn’t Mr. Michael Watts, top USDA attorney, a “civil officer of the United States” (as is the Attorney General, Mr. Mukasey) who would be subject to impeachment of the US for their blatant refusal to carry out legally mandated aspects of their jobs, and directing other “civil officers” of the United States to do the same?
Hopefully by now, 2008, and with a Democratic majority, Congressmembers will understand what the bush administration hasn't yet comprehended: The Congress does have the power, and the public mandate, to stop bush's lawbreaking.
Wow
Telling the guys that sign the check to get out. Telling the guys that work for 'em to shut up.
A vignette of our times.
Suppose it shouldn't really be such a surprise. After all that's gone on. Still. Wow.
And all kinda stuff like that.
FF
"That's history!" Senator McCain said...
It would seem a couple of things :
1/ Senator McCain, having wrapped up his campaign a tad early, has gone straight into the Campaign for the general election without waiting for the democrats to finish their kibuki dance.
2/ Senator McCain is presuming his opponent is Barak Obama.
3/ Senator McCain Knows Exactly what the real issue is. And would like to put it to bed, quietly, before he has an awake opponent.
Senator Obama Correctly pointed out that the War in Iraq was an offensive act. Senator McCain responded that That Does Not Matter. Senator McCain said that WHY we are at war is not important. That what is important is THAT we are at war. And that we win, though he made no mention of what the prize might be.
Senator McCain should not be allowed to believe that any one would believe him, should he spout such a line of botulism tainted pigswill. Yet the Senator obviously believes he will be believed. By numbers.
This is why Mr Bush should be Impeached.
It is also the lynchpin on which hangs Senator McCains' entire campaign. A hundred year war. Never looking back. For ... well, not Honor, certainly. ...not for Country. ...not for rights and freedom. ...not for Mom or apple pie. Apparently for the simple fear of looking at why we have killed a million Iraqis by invading their nearly defenseless country. That, and the fear of looking at the Bill of Rights and wondering what it is for.
I think I attempted several times the point of how to assure loyalty to a cause that deserves none : By getting the initiate to perform a reprehensible act in the name of that cause - then , ever after, guilt prevents reconsideration. Because reconsideration results in the admission of guilt. Which is painful.
Senator McCain is attempting to prevent America reconsidering. He is pointing in the direction we have been going. We all know it is the wrong direction. And that is why America is reconsidering, and why Senator McCain is attempting to prevent that.
Or pervert it. (meant seriously)
In sum, I think it important this point be handled correctly. Please consider it.
Different matter entirely :
Am I the only guy that thinks Barak Obama means Lightning and Thunder?
FF
Postscript : Liked what Pelosi had to say today.
FBI documents contradict 9/11 Commission report
02/28/2008 @ 8:01 am
Filed by Larisa Alexandrovna
Hijacker had post-9/11 flights scheduled, files say
Newly-released records obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request contradict the 9/11 Commission’s report on the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks and raise fresh questions about the role of Saudi government officials in connection to the hijackers.
The nearly 300 pages of a Federal Bureau of Investigation timeline used by the 9/11 Commission as the basis for many of its findings were acquired through a FOIA request filed by Kevin Fenton, a 26 year old translator from the Czech Republic. The FBI released the 298-page “hijacker timeline” Feb. 4.
The FBI timeline reveals that alleged hijacker Hamza Al-Ghamdi, who was aboard the United Airlines flight which crashed into the South Tower of the World Trade Center, had booked a future flight to San Francisco. He also had a ticket for a trip from Casablanca to Riyadh, the capital of Saudi Arabia.
Though referenced repeatedly in the footnotes of the final 9/11 Commission report, the timeline has not previously been made available to the public.
The FBI timeline is dated Nov. 14, 2003 but appears to have been put together earlier (since the last date mentioned in the document is Oct. 22, 2001) and was provided to the 9/11 Commission during its 2003 investigation. The final Commission report cites the FBI timeline 52 times.
Post Sept. 11, 2001 flights
The FBI timeline reveals that Al-Ghamdi, the alleged United hijacker, was booked onto several flights scheduled for after the 9/11 attacks, a piece of information not documented in the Commission’s final report. According to the FBI timeline, Al-Ghamdi was booked on another United Airlines flight on the very day of the attack.
On page 288 under an entry pertaining to “H AlGhamdi,” the FBI timeline reads: "Future flight. Scheduled to depart Los Angeles International Airport for San Francisco International Airport on UA 7950."
The sourcing reads simply: “UA passenger information.”
The timeline similarly documents Al-Ghamdi’s bookings for several other post 9/11 flights, including one on Sept. 20, 2001 from Casablanca, Morocco to Riyadh, Saudi Arabia and another on Sept. 29, 2001 from Riyadh to Damman, Saudi Arabia. (FBI Timeline 2, p. 296 under “H Alghamdi”)
No additional information or explanation is offered in the FBI timeline itself.
The Saudi connection
In January 2000, then-FBI Director Louis Freeh and CIA Director George Tenet attended regular briefings as Malaysian intelligence conducted surveillance of a “terrorist summit meeting” in Kuala Lumpur. Among the attendees were Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Mihdhar, two men who would later allegedly hijack American Airlines Flight 77 and crash it into the Pentagon.
A week after the Malaysian summit, al-Mihdar and al-Hazmi traveled to the United States. According to the 9/11 Commission report, they arrived in Los Angeles on Jan. 15 and “spent about two weeks there before moving to San Diego.” (9/11 Commission report, p. 215, chapter 7). The footnote for this item shows that the Commission relied on a different FBI report, “‘Summary of Pentbom Investigation,’ Feb.29, 2004 (classified version), p.16.”
But the FBI timeline contradicts this claim, placing the alleged hijackers in San Diego with specific details. According to the timeline, the two men resided in Apartment 152 at Parkwood Apartments, San Diego, from Jan. 15 through Feb. 2, 2000.
“A rental application shows that before renting Apartment 150 Parkwood Apartments on 02/05/2000, AL-MlHDHAR and Nawaf Alhazmi alleged that they resided with [REDACTED] from 01/15/2000 to 02/02/2000 at Apartment 152 of the same apartment complex,” page 52 of the FBI timeline reads.
Two pages later, the same apartment complex is noted again, this time with its full address: “AL-MIHDHAR and Nawaf Alhazmi resided at Parkwood Apartments, located at 6401 Mount Ada Road, Apartment 150, San Diego, CA. [REDACTED] was the co-signor and guarantor on the lease agreement for this apparement. The rental application shows that before renting Apartment 150, AL-MIHDHAR and Nawaf Alhazmi resided with [REDACTED]." (A photograph of apartment 152 appears atop this article. An image of apartment 150 appears on page 2.)
In other words, according to the only public account, both Al-Mihdhar and Hazmi were in San Diego, not Los Angeles, contrary to the Commission’s report.
Why did the Commission use an alternate source for the whereabouts of the two men, when the FBI’s own timeline said they were in San Diego by Jan. 15, the same day as their arrival in the US?
Paul Thompson, author of the The Terror Timeline: Year by Year, Day by Day, Minute by Minute: A Comprehensive Chronicle of the Road to 9/11--and America's Response, has been wading through the FBI timeline since its release. His preliminary analysis can be found at the website of the History Commons (formerly known as the Center for Cooperative Research).
Thompson believes that the possible motive for the Commission to alter the dates is to obscure official Saudi ties to the hijackers.
He points to the redaction of the name of a person who is a known employee of a Saudi defense contractor, Omar al-Bayoumi, who lived at the same location.
“We know it’s Bayoumi,” said Thompson, “because after 9/11, the Finnish Government mistakenly released a classified FBI list of suspects that showed Bayoumi living in apartment #152 of Parkwood Apartments.” That information is available here.
“But also important is that it strongly suggests that the hijackers already had a support network in Southern California before they arrived,” Thompson continued.
“In the official version of the story now, the hijackers drift around L.A. listlessly for two weeks before chancing to come across Bayoumi in a restaurant [according to Bayoumi’s account],” Thompson added. “Whereupon he's an incredible good Samaritan and takes them down to San Diego, pays their rent, etc.”
”But from the FBI's timeline, we now know the hijackers started staying at Bayoumi's place on Jan. 15 – the very same day they arrived,” Thompson says. “So obviously they must have been met at the airport and taken care of from their very first hours in the US. That's huge because the FBI maintains to this day that the hijackers never had any accomplices in the US.”
Robert Baer, a former CIA case officer in the Middle East whose See No Evil: The True Story of a Ground Soldier in the CIA's War on Terrorism became the inspiration for the award winning film Syriana, concurs with Thompson’s view.
“There are enough discrepancies and unanswered questions in the 9/11 Commission report that under a friendly administration, the 9/11 investigation should be re-opened,” Baer wrote in an email message Tuesday night.
“Bayoumi clearly offered material assistance to [the 9/11 hijackers].”
READ THE DOCUMENTS: PDF pages 1-105, PDF pages 106-210, PDF pages 211-297.
Continue to page 2: Who is Bayoumi?
Larisa Alexandrovna is managing editor of investigative news for Raw Story and regularly reports on intelligence and national security stories. Contact: larisa@rawstory.com.
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You can lead a republican to the truth, but you can't make him think it...
Some notes on 9/11
1. Webster Tarpley said "If a gang of Arabs tried to take over an aircraft with box-cutters, the pasengers would have beaten them to death with their luggage."
And just HOW much inconvenience has THAT myth caused?
2. A point NOT belabored anywhere. NONE of those Arabs were qualified as a pilot for any multiple-engine aircraft. Yet, they flew the aircraft all around Robin Hood's barn for awhile, and then came in on a bee-line
3. ALL the subject aircraft were equipped to be taken over by radio from the ground, as an "Anti-hijack" measure.
4. A possible reason for delay in flight times. The explosives in the towers were set to go off at specific times, and the Aircraft could not arrive too soon.
4. Actually, seismographic records show that the explosions started before the plane arrived.
5. And STILL some people believe the "Official" story? As H.L.Mencken said, "No one ever went broke underestimating the stupidity of the American Public."
Are you ready to rumble?
When making preparations for "unexpected attacks", such as the one about to be unleashed on Iran, the puppetmasters usually take great pains to protect their assets.
One such asset, at least for the UK, is Prince Harry. After months of front line duty in Afghanistan, a handy "foreign leak" outed his precarious position resulting in a one way ticket home.
While some nations regard humans such as Harry, national treasures, America prays to the almighty dollar in the sky. The question becomes, how do we protect the ill-gotten gain accrued from unwarranted wars, during a time of great terror and economic uncertainty, such as what we witnessed after 9/11?
BushCo protecting their assets in preparation of 9/11 was easy, due to the fact that the attacks came in the USA. All they had to do was take out disaster insurance for their stocks during the run up to the attack, then drop it immediately thereafter. As Average Joe/Jane watched his/her retirement stock drop, the insider investor class elitists of America were spared.
Has anyone else seen the articles about investors being warned away from their investments in Iran? As a stand alone issue, the red flags don't fly. But when I look at the warnings given to Gaza about an impending invasion by Isreal, the warships positioned off the coast of Lebanon, McCain's stubborn refusal to see anything other than 100 more years of killing brown people, Government officials being told to ignore America's Justice system, and the Democrats finally understanding that "we the people" are serious about national loyalty and the rule of law over gangland activity disguised as party politics, I'm left with the belief that George and the DLC/RNC Congress would rather see America die or commit to another unwarranted war, than have the truth be known.
Did anyone follow the Texas story about the DA who was caught on camera trying to meet an underage boy for sex? When he realised that they had the goods on him, he killed himself. Of course, I can see where other pedophile Judges and DA's could have been spooked into thinking that their victims might be empowered by this type of activity, so they are suing the corporation that aired it, as a deterrent to others who may have the internal strength to fight, but not the physical strength to prevent their molestation.
My point being, even though America holds the honor of being the number 1 incarcerator of it's citizenry, the people who get off on our imprisonment would rather kill themselves than be seen for what they are. If this man thought he could bullshit his way out of it, or attack instead of defend, he'd still be lying to the public as he molests more children.
BushCo does everything with historic implications in mind. By finally getting the balls to damage his permanent record, as they try to prove beyond any reasonable doubt that his administration has committed many egregious Constitutional offenses, Congress is boxing him in a corner.
His only way out, with any hope of feigned honor, is forward. Having duped rank and file Americans into believing that the GOP represent the rule of law and Constitution, as they commit crimes and piss all over it, he knows the only thing keeping the GOP/DLC viable, is duplicity.
Mr. Conyers, when Bush and his friends manufacture the intelligence needed to commit to another unwarranted invasion of a sovereign nation, or ignore intelligence that could prevent the next 9/11 style attack, you have to keep doing the job you frantically campaigned for.
Bush will do what Bush will do. Your job should be to get it on record that what Bush does, is illegal in every sense of the word.
Every day I talk to rank and file GOP'ers who refuse to believe that little Georgie has ever lid to them, because America's justice system is based on the concept that we are all innocent until PROVEN guilty. Since my Democratic leaders appear to have succumbed to blackmail, the discussion always ends with the fact that if Dems can't muster the courage to prove it in court, they shouldn't be dogcatchers, let alone running America.
I believe, it has always been a foregone conclusion that Bush will throw everything but the kitchen sink at Congress, including another unjustified illegal war, martial law, and concentration camps, before he allows his legacy as a modern day Alexander the Great to be diminished.
Mr. Conyers, I accept the fact that your pursuing justice, might result in my unlimited detention and slavery, and I haven't written any books that caused Constitution supporting left wing Americans to wake up and smell the coffee for the first time in decades.
Your book emboldened us to believe in activism again. This is an historical reference that BushCo will never forgive. Eventually, when you've assured "George the Mediocre's" place in history, they will deal with your impertinence.
Due to our leaders inability to accept that history will record them to be the politicians who chose financial riches and personal edification, over the survival of the greatest nation that ever existed, their place in history is assured.
If BushCo wins, the history they write will describe why John Conyers was publicly shamed after lying in his book. If we win, BushCo will see that you get punished for the crimes you and they know about. It isn't only Bush that has worked himself into a corner.
You can run, but you can't hide. Go big or stay home. Impeach or be impeached.
Fuck the war. Yeah I said it, fuck the war. Do the frickin job you campaigned for. When you do more than slander, it will take Bush's rank and file support away. Wars come and go. It's the greed of those who see death as an economic opportunity, that make them so attractive to those who don't have to serve.
Average Joe GOP'er, is a GOP'er, because they understand that the rule of law and the Constitution protects them. If you show, for the first time in my generation, that Democrats are willing to pay more than lip service to our Constitutional system, they may see the validity of your leadership.
Until then, things are going to get a lot worse before they get better. Conyers/Pelosi have ensured it by refusing to allow the will of the people to impact the debate.
Mark my words Mr. Conyers. You have already reached the point of no return historically. Appeasing these fascist bastards, even for the sake of your Democratic homeys, will do nothing to ingratiate you to them.
Your future has been sealed. The only thing that remains to be seen, is whether or not you go down fighting the good fight, or in shame the way Benedict Arnold died in England.
Are you ready to rumble? You had better be, because they are.
What part of everything is on the table, don't you understand?
PS; Thank you for making the Just-Us Departments bribe to Ashcroft, an issue. Until you show that the healthcare mutual admiration society is filled with greedy pricks that see our existence as a threat to their way of life, they'll continue to let the cockroach class die. As a cockroach, I appreciate it.
R E N D I T I O N and T O R T U R E
emphasis mine
Buckle up, everyone! Here we go again!
Only this time it's not anthrax, nope, it's powder ricin found in a Las Vegas motel.
"There is nothing to fear but fear itself."
Franklin D. Roosevelt
But, hey, Bush has already taken care of it!
Satire very close to "home."
"There is nothing to fear but fear itself."
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Democrats for drunk high schoolers.
While a large portion of Vermonters wonder why anti-terrorism helicopters are teaming with people like Pat Leahy to imprison his constituents for plants, a Democratic legislator is frantic over the possibility that the push for equal enforcement of the law will result in college children having their futures destroyed, due to their blatantly illegal acts.
Isn't it funny how the biggest story to come out of Vermont after discovering that they hold the honor of spending more money per capita on inmates, than anyone else in America, is about protecting drunk college students by allowing high schoolers to buy alcohol?
But wait, they also attempted to deal with the root cause of these detentions, selective prosecution, while Leahy was simultaneously funding those responsible.
The legislature also discussed legalizing hemp and marijuana, due to the fact that hemp could impact the environmental debate, and marijuana causes far less actual damage to society than alcohol consumption. Since they spend way more money on arresting potheads than education, it would seem that stopping the money flow from going to the pot police, would allow more to be spent on combatting the effects of booze.
For just a second I'm going to pretend that realtors and environmentalists aren't using the war on drugs as a means to depopulate Northern New York and Vermont, prior to creating the Great Bob Marshall Wilderness Park, as they are allowed to snort and smoke their way to a lower drinking age.
Knowing what I know about Pat Leahy's Vermont National Guard, and the helicopters he allows to be sent to my area for marijuana eradication efforts, it makes me wonder if federal anti-terrorism money was included while deciding which state holds the #1 spot regarding spending to incarcerate. If it wasn't, the numbers would be much higher.
But what do investor class elitist Democrats in Vermont want to talk about? Selective legislation designed to protect the drunken whelp of the investor class.
When I was a potsmoking kid, we were always happy to see college classes start in the fall. Once college started, the drugs would begin to flow. If we could get Leahy to pursue college drug dealers instead of flying helicopters over my Northern New York home, Vermont might get a little better bang for their bucks.
Instead, he tells them to go fuck themselves as he perpetuates the system of unequal justice America has become famous for.
But that's OK. If wealthy elitists weren't stacking the deck in their favor, America might not have the reputation we enjoy today.
It isn't every nation that can brag about being #1 incarcerator, and the premier torturer to the world at the same time. As long as progressive elitist liberals like Leahy keep giving money to fascists, we'll keep our status as #1.
Too bad the discussion the AP picked up on, reinforces the concept that Democrats see laws as things to be conveniently used or discarded, based on the societal capital of the offender.
I could be writing about the hope created by a product that could save America's citizens billions annually, as it lessens our dependence on Bush's Saudi friends. Instead I wind up slamming someone I respected.
Thanks for nothing Pat. The next time you get told to go Cheney yourself, I'll think of the helicopters flying over my mobile home, and say, good enough.
Pander to the prison industrial complex all you want. It'll prove to America what the rank and file has known all along. Laws mean nothing to Democratic educated America, unless they can be used arbitrarily and capriciously.
So,
I CAN refuse subpoenas?
AG Refuses Probe of Ex-Bush Aides
Pelosi Responds
Congressman,
Which Bush appointed Federal Judge do you hope gets the case?
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CONTEMPT!!!
Nancy: You "Took an oath to what?"
If you mean it, WHEN DO IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS START? They're the only hope we have to avoid WWIII!!!!!! (Which we'd lose -) Rohatyn, that moneybag fascist is NOT the only source of campaign funds, as Dean has proved. Get out of the way, and let John do his job!
Fascinating analysis of Meet the Press host
Memo to Tim Russert: Dick Cheney thinks he controls you.
Tim Russert, shill for the GOP
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George Bush Is Engaged in an Epic Battle to Cover His Ass
I have no doubt there are many in our government who know who has been the target of these wiretaps. It may not be Gore or Amanpour but my guess is the democrats and republicans have known this.
(snip)
Republicans are, of course, fundamentally pro-corporate, even more so than modern Democrats. But to go to bat this hard on behalf of an industry seems anomalous even for them. All a congressman usually has to do for his biennial bribe is vote in a corporation's interests, not engage in tantrum theatrics. There's more than pedestrian corruption at work here.
(snip)
In 2006, after Andrea Mitchell asked New York Times reporter James Risen, who broke the domestic spying story, out of the blue, "You don't have any information, for instance, that a very prominent journalist, Christiane Amanpour, might have been eavesdropped upon?" Risen did not, but NBC scrubbed the question from its transcripts of the interview, later explaining that the story had been "released prematurely," that they had not "completed" their reporting. But they didn't call the allegation irresponsible, or speculative, or any other dismissive adjective they could have used. They essentially confirmed that they had reason to believe that Bush was secretly wiretapping a prominent CNN reporter.
And why the hell wouldn't he, after all? Without a reviewable record of warrants, it's not as if anyone can possibly find out -- unless somebody sues the telecoms, and specific, decidedly non-terrorist surveillance targets are identified in the ensuing discovery process. And that is why the Republicans are going apeshit over retroactive immunity, not just to protect the telecoms, but to cover their own asses. If it ever comes out that their secret, illegal domestic wiretaps were not targeting al Qaeda, but Al Gore, the jig is finally up. The entire "trust us, we're hunting terrorists" rationale, as thin as it always was, will lose any residual integrity, and the GOP may never recover. And they know it. And maybe, hopefully, the Democrats finally know it too.
George Bush Is Engaged in an Epic Battle to Cover His Ass
“Is Congress Dead?”
ClammyC asks that question in his diary Do Your Job or Resign which pretty well nails the past, present and future consequences of Congress abrogating its power to the Executive.
After receiving Speaker Pelosi’s SWL last week bush puppet Mukasey Contemptuously responded that he will refuse to refer contempt charges (against Miers & Bolton) to a grand jury.
This diary Quotes the Congressional Research Service’s Congressional Oversight Manual re: Inherent Contempt:
As Kagro X says, (emphasis mine) “…Let's face it: if the "administration" simply refuses to budge, the Congress either has to fold its tent and go home, or enforce on its own authority the subpoena power the American people voted for…”
IMHO, referral of Mukasey/Bolton/Meirs and ultimately Bush/ Cheney’s Contempt of Congress and Congressional subpoena power to the Judiciary branch, dominated by politicized right-wing bushies is futile kabuki theatrics doomed to failure. If the Democratic Congressional leadership believes that they can regain their power (and sufficiently cover their posteriors) by throwing this “hot potato” struggle between the Executive and the Legislature to the right wing Judiciary for resolution, they are only fooling themselves.
There is no reason to believe that the same Judiciary, which twisted the law to hand the Executive over to bush, despite the fact that the majority of the popular vote went to his opponent and the fact that the "executive's" brother and his cronies were in charge of the voting process in the disputed vote in FL--yes THAT Judiciary--is capable of impartially resolving a power struggle between the Executive and the Legislative Branch.
IMHO, the likelihood that the Judicial will rescue the Legislative from their own foolish abrogation of power to the Executive is slim to none. Bush has had seven years to pack the Judiciary with bushies who won't be at all inclined to rule in Congress's favor. No, the only ones who can rescue the Congress from its own foolish nullification of its power is Congress itself. If Congress is serious about restoring any modicum of their power, they must be prepared to back up their threats with the only two actions now left to them that have any possibility of successfully restoring the Balance of Power, (because they are initiated and carried out by the Legislative Branch):
1. Reasserting Congressional subpoena authority: Enforcement of Inherent contempt. 2. Reasserting Congressional Oversight Authority: Opening up all the criminality, corruption, obstruction of justice, etc of the Administration by instituting Impeachment Hearings.
If, at this point they cave in yet again, Congress IS dead.
Laurie Dobson Writes,
Congressman,
It seems the People are becoming ANGRY at the inaction from Congress and especially from your Office. I guess if you won't act, the People MUST!
Please do telll, what have we become as a Nation, when our President becomes a wanted man in his own country?
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I M P E A C H
THEM BOTH !!!
I concurr, however, would add...
It's a good summation, Unspun. What I would add is, the trip to Court is a necessary prerequisite to the recourse to inherent contempt. Prior to the trip to Court, there remains the potential that the Court will solve the problem. It is due diligence to at least ask the Court to do so, before the Congress acts to defend its' ... how to put this ... preogative.
Doesn't really seem as if Congress Wants to defend itself, though.
It seems a little like trying to get a depressed person to cheer up. It's like, ...
what does it take?
Thinking about it.
FF
Only a Coward
runs away when things stop going his way.
Boehner has proved his cowardice. The entire Congress is carrying an 18% approval rating and dropping - because the Democrats appear to be even more cowardly.
Starting Impeachment Hearings may serve to restore some of the confidence we felt in the probity of the "New" Congress - has it been only a year ago that Nancy and Felix kicked you in the gut?
Like it or not, Mr. Chairman, YOU alone are carrying the Public's banner. When Nancy decided that campaign ca$h was more important than Public Approval, she removed any credibility she had. To accept MONEY from the man who financed Pinochet totally destroyed any credibility the Democrats had. (redundant, but true). BUT - now you have another fish on your plate.
Mukasey's refusal to pursue two KNOWN scofflaws is contrary to his Oath of Office, and eminently impeachable! Build a fire under him!
That Bu$h can ORDER two - or a dozen - or a hundred - lawyers to disobey the law shows his own disrespect for the "Democracy" he professes to "Defend." You can't go after him, unless you start dismantling his firewalls.
THE PEOPLE ARE ON YOUR SIDE!! Do your job - I know you want to!
Off topic, but check this out
http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature+Monitors+Report+Widescale+Global+Cooling/article10866.htm
Of course
this has nothing to do with it, because you cannot report and debate what is unacknowledged. However, we already know the US government has said they are seriously considering "R&D" into "modifying solar radiance."
Lord knows the Bush administration would never do anything in secret or contrary to good ethical moral and legal judgement. But my personal observations has led me to the belief that this operation hit full speed the day after Thanksgiving 2007 and has not let up since. I counted two days in February where the operation did not occur.
BTW, anyone not believing that this is occurring is deluding themselves. The evidence, quite literally, is everywhere. It's in your home, it's in and on your body, and it's in your drinking water. Go to make a pot of coffee using city municipal tap water and hold the glass pot up to the sun and watch. As the bubbles dissipate and settle down, you will see tiny fibers floating and swirling in the water. These fibers are glass and are the resultant fallout from the weather control operations occurring in the skies above.
I challenge you to go ahead and do your own testing. Collect the dust and do flame loop testing. Compare that to the spectra of Barium which is distinct in color. It looks yellowish green. (Note: other green metal salts are mixed with blue light emissions giving them a "deeper" colour. Also, be aware that Sodium will contaminate and cloud the results as it is very sensitive to this test.)
Given FF,
But how long has it been?
Also, is failed criminal contempt charges truly a requisite of inherent contempt. Just like a case does not necessarily have to be seen by an appellate court before going before the SCOTUS, but that is traditionally how it is done. But I guess when you are trying to drag the clock out .....
It has been as long as you think.
What I was saying, and this is purely my opinion, one I feel sure enough about that I have not researched, I have simply acted on it, That if the Court were not given opportunity to say "That is a political matter.", then it would be called "Political" when Congress acts to enforce its' will on the Executive.
It is a completely different thing for the Court to call something political than for the republicans to call something political. In the one case the word is technical, with meaning precisely defined, in the other context the word takes on pejorative connotations.
In giving the Court the the matter, having the Court call it political, the difference is that when the republicans subsequently call it political IN THE OTHER CONTEXT, the pejorative effect my be nullified by stating that YES, IT IS POLITICAL, AS THE COURT HAS DETERMINED, and is therefor being appropriately dealt with, politically.
That was my reasoning. Note that all of this is moot, in the event the Democrats fail to wake up and realize that there is a battle going on, for the Soul of America, and that they are in it.
Fortunately, Ralph is running.
Frosted Flake
Brattleboro, Vt. votes Tuesday!
Sorry for the brevity (/snark), but the political cover MUST STOP!
Congressman,
Can you ensure that either Democrat, Clinton or Obama, won't abuse the extremes pushed by the currant Administration and tolerated by the Congress. Can you guarantee that neither won't WARRANTLESS SPY, TORTURE, RENDITION, USURP CONGRESS and THE AMERICAN PEOPLE'S RIGHTS? You can't until you act!
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I M P E A C H
or RESIGN !!!
Q U E S T I O N:
When the President and Vice President of the USA become wanted criminals in their own country, what does that say about a Congress that allowed these men to become so evil and destructive to their own end?
IMPOTENT?
SPINELESS?
USELESS?
COWARDS?
or
Just agreeable?
W A N T E D ...
Mr. Conyers,
Your President and his Vice President are WANTED men in Brattleboro and Marlboro, Vt.
... virtually!
So say the People...
What say you?
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I M P E A C H
or R E S I G N !!!
p.s.
Other cities are looking and deciding on similar measures soon.
WHAT DO YOU SUPPORT AND DEFEND
IF NOT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE USA?
The political cover MUST END!
Telecom Immunity
If Telecoms are immunized ... how then may wiretaps be regulated?
Self Deleted
(need to research further).