Extending on that theme, I got some links here.

Frank is frank

Happy days are here again, and they're about to get happier.

Once the investigations start--and they have to start, that's the mandate: oversight, answers, the reason we have a Congress, the reason we voted the way we did--the future is, in a sense, out of our hands. It doesn't really matter what anyone wants or says he wants now, or what anyone says will or should happen: one small step, which can't be avoided, will lead inexorably to the next, and then to another, then another, and another--and before long--we can't avoid it--we'll be having a big televised committee hearing, which is, after all, the most fun you can have in your living room--and then, not long after that, we'll come to the most profoundly satisfying, democracy-affirming, delirium-inducing results we can imagine.

I don't have to agree on every point to get along with Frank.

And it is going to happen, regardless of what Congress hopes

Just days after his resignation, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is about to face more repercussions for his involvement in the troubled wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. New legal documents, to be filed next week with Germany's top prosecutor, will seek a criminal investigation and prosecution of Rumsfeld, along with Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, former CIA director George Tenet and other senior U.S. civilian and military officers

It is not like there is any shortage of ammunition.

Sonoma State University have released their annual list of under-reported news stories, somewhat deceptively titled "Top 25 Censored Stories of 2007." This is misleading (since 2007 hasn't even started yet) so either they have learned to see into the future at Sonoma State, or they meant to say "2006."

But then again, maybe they meant to say EXACTLY what they did.

And on top of everything else

...the executive chairman (of the 9/11 Commission) and principal author of the Commission report was Secretary Rice's close friend, former colleague, co-author, and now Senior Advisor, Philip Zelikow....

Which tends to make that report kinda useless.....Don't it.

There is one good thing about morons. They provide less ons. And lessons make you smarter. So, now, we are.
Frosted Flake

I totally agree!! And I believe that the American people will be watching closely the next 2 yrs to see what we accomplish with real issues that affect them.(i.e. raising the minimum wage; repealing the oil company's tax breaks; changing the Medicare prescription laws; and Iraq).
We must not tie up our system with impeachment per se. But we can & must proceed with oversight hearings!
We won this election with not only the "left wing" of the party . But also with Moderate Republicans & Independents who will get turned off by impeachment and probably go back to voting Republican in 2008.That is unless we can really show them a party that gets results as opposed to one which just gets revenge.

Democratic Greyhound

I am so terribly disappointed that you, and your fellow Democrats in Congress, may now back off from investigating the absolutely unconstitutional and shameless conduct of the Bush White House. All for the sake of appearing "bipartisan" and "forward-thinking" to the publiv via our corporate-controlled media.

There will be no future (certainly not a bright one) for the Democrats if they don't respect the will of the electorate and hold the Republicans accountable. On the heels of today's big news story, speaking to the existence of documents that show Bush clearly signed off on torture, your letter (and the Democratic bosses' attempt to circumvent controversy) are extremely disturbing.

Here is the list. And we aint on it.

And niether are the democrats.

Maybe it would help if we all said one thing (yeah, I know, it's a streach) in unison (yeah, I know, high fantasy). But let's give it a try :

PRESIDENT PELOSI

There. Does that make everybody happy?
Frosted Flake
I'm done for the day.

It seems to me while impeachment may not have been the immediate goal, passing of progressive legislations, accountability, withdrawal from Iraq, A jobs program, drug reform, a Wealth Tax, National Health Insurance are. If Democrats are worth anything they stand for something not for simply throwing the other team out.

Impeachment could be the stick and the above the carrot. By doing what you did and craving respectability and you and Nancy Pelosi made it easier for your enemies and harder to hold them accountable. You also insulted Nancy Sheehan and others who lost their children in a needless war. Rather than saying anything about what you are not going to do, it would be better to simply act. Impeachment could be the cost of lack of cooperation.

I look forward to serious investigations of the administration and other useful domestic issues and oversight with you at the head of the Judiciary Committee. All of us are watching to see if Democrats are really different than Republicans or just talk a different line but support in reality mostly the same things.
--mike

Mr. Conyers:

Perhaps you misunderstand the nature of american voters and Impeachment. This is NOT a request. We WILL have this brought before the House, whether our federal officials do it... or WE do it from the State Legislature.

Thomas Jefferson's "Manual on Parliamentary Practice and Rules of the House of Representatives"
Section 603, 5):

"There are various methods of setting an Impeachment into motion... ...By charges transmitted by a State Legislature, or a Grand Jury;"

http://inetresults.com/impeach/strategy.html

Simply put, this means ANY State Legislature may pass a Joint Resolution, and submit it to the U.S. House of Representatives as a Priviledged Bill. A Priviledged Bill means it supercedes ALL other business before the House, and must be actioned upon before any other business may proceed.

Sir, as you well know, several of the Northeastern states have long proud liberal histories. And given the extent of voter outrage, it will be simple enough to generate public pressure at the State levels to get such legislation passed in one or many states. Back home in individual states, beltway political power is no match for the power of local constituencies, and you know it. Likewise with California, Minnesota, and Illinois.

Do you, Madame Pelosi, or any other democratic members of the House REALLY want to have to face your constituents after this happens? It will be political suicide.

This IS going to happen. The Netroots will see to it that this becomes the Mother of all BlogStorms, and that the publicity is beyond saturated. Throw in MSNBC coverage from Kieth Olbermann, John Stewart, Bill Maher, and of course every talk show across America... I think you understand.

You cannot stop this. Attempt to at your own political peril. Now do the peoples' business, and uphold Constitutional Law.

Until the Fourth of July to see investigations, serious investigations well underway. Or we go to the States.

Mr. Conyers,

You have taken an oath to defend our constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic. In that, you have clearly failed to do your job. Justice is "off the table?" This is completely unbelievable.

You and Nancy Pelosi have effectively said that Republican presidents can do no wrong. They are defacto dictators, who will not be held to account for the most grievous crimes of our lifetimes, including treason, Crimes Against the Peace, Crimes Against Humanity, numerous constitutional crimes, and a lengthy list that you know too well.

History will look back at your cute little "table" and judge you and the collaborators in Congress who let criminality pass for business as usual, and they will know.

That is why I will use you and Nancy Pelosi to make my case that a new political party, whose sole purpose is "Justice" is needed, and needed badly:

thejusticeparty.org

Democrats do not deserve our votes. That much is clear. Their party should disappear and be replaced with a party that actually opposes corruption and war for profit.

Congressman Conyers,
I feel very proud and happy that a legislator of your high caliber will be in the leadership in the new Congress next year. I have followed your Congressional career and know you will continue to make us proud to be Democrats and Americans.
(When I was in Law School, many years ago, I had a part time job at the US Capitol, manning the sound system switchboard in the gallery when the Congress was in session at night. I modulated the speaker volume for the speakers, sometimes more than one at a time. I hope whomever is monitoring the system next year, they will turn up the volume when you take the podium so all members will hear you loud and clear!)
Thanks for being there!

John-

I am deeply angered by the sudden Democratic party decision that "impeachment is off the table" for the criminals in the White House.

First of all, this isn't up to you, or Nancy Pelosi. You are a paid civil servant trusted to govern, and obliged to live by the laws of the land as defined in the Constitution of the United States, just like the rest of us. If you EVER forget that, I am sure we will help remind you, painfully.

Second, you have done nothing but PROVE beyond the shadow of a doubt, that you are just as complicit in the destruction of American Freedom as they are. LET ME STATE THAT AGAIN, SO THERE IS NO MISUNDERSTANDING: YOU ARE JUST AS COMPLICIT IN THE DESTRUCTION OF AMERICAN FREEDOM AS THE REPUBLICANS AND BUSH.

Third, people are NOT going to tolerate this systematic abuse of power forever. Don't get me wrong- I understand why this is occurring, thanks to the globalists pulling the strings of every politician in this country, for the sake of instituting world governance. MAKE NO MISTAKE- resistance is forming in many places across the country, at every level of government, and in secret.

CHOOSE YOUR SIDE MR. CONYERS.

Dear Rep. Conyers,
I am thrilled to bits to think that your integrity and leadership skills will finally have a chance to effect some long-needed changes in our poor benighted (by ghastly Bush Admin.) country.

When you called for an inquiry into the obviously rigged Ohio vote count in 2004 (among other states), and when you held the valuable Downing Street Memo hearings in the infamous basement, it just killed me that none of the major media were covering your work. At least, not in any detail or in a sustained way. If it hadn't been for blessed C-SPAN, none of us would have known much about your valiant efforts.

When the 2000 presidential election was stolen by a shamelessly partisan Supreme Court, I wrote many letters to editors complaining about most Americans' disgraceful apathy. I thought there should have been rioting in the streets, but people like me who pointed out the crime were laughed at as sore losers.

When Sen. Kerry was also robbed by Ken Blackwell and other conflict-of-interest officials, I again wrote scores of letters to media outlets and newspapers. But in 2004, those of us who spoke the truth were mocked as conspiracy nuts.

(What a tragic waste of a fine candidate, Sen. Kerry. And now, the rotten news media counts him out as an also-ran, insisting that voters want "new faces." How absurd and wrongheaded! Experience should count more than mere novelty.)

Thus, you will understand why I was so grateful for your fighting spirit and exposure of the outrageous fraud perpetrated
by Bush and his beastly crew. His "re-election" has cost us countless billions of dollars wasted on a misbegotten war, money that should have been spent on poor people at home. And of course, many thousands of lives wasted and families destroyed, both here and in Iraq.

As a former teacher, I saw what idiocy "No Child Left Behind" was. Neo-cons WANT poorly educated children because ignorant people will continue to vote for them and their awful agendas.

I know that you will do great things to help our country get back on track. Tragically, it will be so hard to get us out of Iraq. That monstrous war is practically impossible to close. I just hope the American public will understand that it is not Democrats' fault if it is a messy withdrawal, and remember WHO got us into this in the first place.

I appreciated your generosity in dropping for the moment the idea of impeaching Pres. Bush. As much as he deserves it (so much more than Clinton did!), it would be a distraction now when we have so many other problems. I also thank you for your intelligent remark regarding James Carville's insult to Chairman Howard Dean. That was so uncalled for and a pity James said such a stupid thing. YOU are always a gentleman, sir.

I should like to request that you add to your undoubtedly long list of things to do the matter of reinstating the environmental protections that Bush and his greedy corporate cronies emasculated. I realize that this may not be your immediate concern or within your normal purview, but I beseech you to encourage many others to work on this at once. Environmental degradation and animal species extinction has been hastened by Bush (and Reagan before him) to such a degree that countless millions of animals are literally starving to death right now, simply because we humans have been so greedy and selfish. Partly it is due to our insane insistence on having everything we want right now (such as SUVs and too much food), causing pollution; and partly it is because we hog so much land and destroy animals' habitat in the process.

Most Americans are so short-sighted on this issue. If you tell them about animals' suffering (such as arctic animals losing their habitat and thus starving), they seem to think it has nothing to do with them. Yet, if you read Rachel Carson or Jacques Cousteau or Robert Kennedy, Jr., you will know that the animals' extinction is only a short step from our own ruination. WE deserve to suffer; they don't. They did not do this to the planet. WE DID! And Carson, et. al., warned us 40 years ago! What fools we humans have been to ignore them, and now it is virtually too late. Still, we could save SOME of the beauty and health of this planet if we all try, if we ALL conserve. If not, we deserve our doom.

Please don't allow drilling in ANWAR. Please help bring back electric and other cars that don't use oil. Please care about animals' habitat and health. If we humans don't care about helping other species then we are truly damned.

I thank you, and I pray for your success and happiness. Bless you and your family. Keep up the good fight.

Warm Regards,
Eileen

since JC delivered his Sermon on the Mount remarks to the assembled multitude of ConyersBloggers.

I think a different Golden Oldie from the New Testament is more appropriate right now:

"And they came to Jerusalem: and Jesus went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, "Ye have made it a den of thieves!"

Different leader. Same principle.

Republican thieves and liars and criminals have plundered and defiled America's temple of government, and it is time to kick their asses out of that temple and into prison.

Any questions, JC?

I hope not, because the multitude is getting very restless.

Who makes such a decision? Who announces that a part of the Constitution is suddenly off the table?
This only further fuels the paranoia so many of us feel that the whole thing is rigged.
Justice and revenge, no one has ever adequately explained the difference. Karma? But the need to impeach Bush goes beyond justice or revenge. First we need to do it for our own protection, our children's safety. Is there anything more important than that? Also, Bush needs to be impeached to help restore our nation's reputation and standing in the world.
Justice and or revenge is the least of it. Bush needs to be impeached for his own good and ours.

the cooler

Dear Congressman Conyers,

All I asked of you during the upcoming 110th Congress is that you act to return our government to a system based upon law. All other priorities are secondary and will follow as a natural consequence as long as we hold to that principle.

We need to affirm to the people and the World that the USA is governed by system of laws, not men and the secret interplay of power.

In a system base upon laws no one has the right to decide that impeachment is off the table if the evidence indicates that high crimes and misdemeanors were committed.

If you believe, and I know you do, that high crimes and misdemeanors were perpetrated by the Administration you are obligated to investigate these crimes and, if your beliefs are confirmed, to persue impeachment. If you fail to do that you are complicit in the crimes and should also be held accountable to the law.

I know you know what is right, please act accordingly. Thank you.

Yes, now the hard part begins: realizing that the Democrats we worked so hard to elect earlier this month are completely useless and, worse, are actually aiding criminal activity. Sure didn't take them long to show their real character--or lack thereof.

Unless there's recently been an undercover Congressional inquiry into Bush's many transgressions and crimes and he was somehow found innocent--AND NONE OF US HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT IT--than how can Conyers say that impeachment is now off the table?

Which is the real Conyers--the one who only seven months ago was (rightly) calling for a Select Committee to look into the grounds for recommending President Bush,s impeachment, or the one who now, for reasons other than political ones no one can possibly fathom, says that impeachment is not to be considered. The answer obviously is this: that THERE IS NO REAL CONYERS--ONLY A TYPICAL POLITICIAN who will do anything to advance his own career rather than do what is right.

As we all know, if any president in history has committed "high crimes and misdemeanors" (that is, impeachable offenses) it is George W. Bush. I am unable to list all of them here as I can't go on forever! But by not calling for impeachment Conyers is essentially saying to this president, "Go ahead, continue to flout the law, we won't even consider doing anything about it". Gosh, Bush must be laughing hysterically about this. Every time he loses he wins!

And this is what we hoped for with a Democratic victory? Well, more clearly than ever the Democrats, and especially Conyers and Pelosi, have made it clear that they are simply untrustworthy, spineless excuses for leaders. Shame, shame, shame. Hopefully both of you will be punished the next time you are up for re-election and thrown out of office. No matter what you do from this point on you cannot redeem yourselves. Get a job that fits your (lack of) ability to lead, but please don't run again for Representative or Senator. Step aside for REAL leaders who are not afraid to stand up to the Chief Executor. Even better, you deserve to be immediately impeached yourselves, because ignoring doing anything about the Bush administration's horrible crimes against humanity is tantamount to abetting them!!

I'd love to know how Mr. Conyers can defend himself against the above. We're all waiting for your response...

See below for more damning evidence:

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APN Interviews Conyers, Swanson, and Goodman

By Matthew Cardinale, Editor, Atlanta Progressive News (March 10, 2006)

(APN) ATLANTA - 30 US House Representatives have signed on as sponsors or co-sponsors of H. Res 635, which would create a Select Committee to look into the grounds for recommending President Bush,s impeachment, Atlanta Progressive News has learned.

"There has been massive support for House Resolution 635 from a very vigorous network of grassroots activists and people committed to holding the Bush Administration accountable for its widespread abuses of power," US Rep. John Conyers (D-MI) said in a statement prepared for Atlanta Progressive News.

The Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) also released a book, Articles of Impeachment Against President Bush. The Center is extremely influential in high-profile court fights over issues such as wiretapping, the treatment of detainees by the US, and felon voting rights.
_______________________________________________________________
Go To http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.RES.635: for the text of HR 635
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Also:

". . .we have found that there is substantial evidence the President, the Vice-President and other high ranking members of the Bush Administration misled Congress and the American people regarding the decision to go to war in Iraq; misstated and manipulated intelligence information regarding the justification for such war; countenanced torture and cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment in Iraq; and permitted inappropriate retaliation against critics of their Administration. There is at least a prima facie case that these actions that federal laws have been violated - from false statements to Congress to retaliating against Administration critics." -- John Conyers, Incoming Chairman of House Judiciary Committee.

Mr. Chairman:
Your words are well put. You're assuaging the voters that this new Congress will be thoughtful and not into superficial paybacks, is the meaning I take.
I think you should follow Honest Abe's idea about Hewing to what's correct and letting the chips fall where they may.
Some of the most important work in the next Congress' first year will be investigating the serious abuses of the Administration, and then taking the appropriate action in light of the facts.
It is being fair and unbiased for you to say you cannot speak of what course to follow when you have not yet determined the truth.
A year from now, who knows what we will have seen come to light, and what we will know needs to be done.
Justice carries the sword as well as the scales.

Mr. Conyers, I have nothing but respect for the work you've done, but I feel really let down to hear that you've given up on impeaching the president. Obviously, you know way more about government than I do, but right now I don't really care about realities or practicalities. For the last 8 years the Bush administration, with the support of a Republican Congress and the media, have done some horrendous things. And they mostly got away with it. And, now that you've been given some power, it's not as if I'm not asking you to use that power and do something horrendous in return...I'm just expecting you to prosecute Bush's crimes to the maximum of your authority. That's called justice and accountability.

Why are they gunning for Howard Dean? Robert Reich explains...

http://robertreich.blogspot.com/2006/11/why-are-they-gunning-for-howard-dean.html

See here:

http://www.downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2006/11/hero-and-hack-howard-dean-and-james.html

John,
We in the Single Payer movement are hoping that you will actively pursue obtaining more Co-Sponsors of your Single Payer bill, HR 676, which, at last count, I believe has 77 Co-Sponsors and counting. I don't know if you have to re-introduce the bill but we in California support your efforts at the National level while we work hard on the State level to get our bill, SB840, pushed forward again.
It doesn't hurt to keep reminding the public that Single Payer=Medicare for All is the only solution for the crisis which is only getting worse (as exemplified by the hurricane Katrina victims).
If you are successful in getting it passed before us, all the better, but we will try, also, in parallel fashion, to get it soon as a model for the rest of the country.
California is the 6th largest economy in the world and it would be a perfect pilot project to test the value of Single Payer.
We in Health Care for All-California are the first grassroots, totally volunteer organization to not only write comprehensive Single Payer legislation but also to get it passed through 2 hours of the Legislature. Of course, we had to deal with Mr. Schwarzenegger at the end who is well-financed by the health insurance and pharmaceutical industries. He'll be coming up with his own plan which I am sure will benefit those industries and not the people he governs.
As a progressive Democrat I would like to see the progressive agenda be out in the forefront of addressing long overdue domestic issues such as poverty, unemployment, civil rights issues and health care.
You are one of my heroes. Keep up the good work!
Lynn Huidekoper, RN, HCA-Santa Clara County/Silicon Valley Coalition

Will they or won't they: last chance for Democrats
by David Swanson
November 17, 2006

WHY did all manly gifts in Webster fail?
He wrote on Nature's grandest brow, For Sale.
--Emerson

A Tale of Two Conyers

PART I

Congressman John Conyers, "The Constitution in Crisis", December 2005:
"In brief, we have found that there is substantial evidence the President, the Vice President and other high ranking members of the Bush Administration misled Congress and the American people regarding the decision to go to war with Iraq; misstated and manipulated intelligence information regarding the justification for such war; countenanced torture and cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment and other legal violations in Iraq; and permitted inappropriate retaliation against critics of their Administration.

"There is a prima facie case that these actions by the President, Vice-President and other members of the Bush Administration violated a number of federal laws, including (1) Committing a Fraud against the United States; (2) Making False Statements to Congress; (3) The War Powers Resolution; (4) Misuse of Government Funds; (5) federal laws and international treaties prohibiting torture and cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment; (6) federal laws concerning retaliating against witnesses and other individuals; and (7) federal laws and regulations concerning leaking and other misuse of intelligence.

"While these charges clearly rise to the level of impeachable misconduct, because the Bush Administration and the Republican-controlled Congress have blocked the ability of Members to obtain information directly from the Administration concerning these matters, more investigatory authority is needed before recommendations can be made regarding specific Articles of Impeachment. As a result, we recommend that Congress establish a select committee with subpoena authority to investigate the misconduct of the Bush Administration with regard to the Iraq war detailed in this Report and report to the Committee on the Judiciary on possible impeachable offenses."
-- Congressman John Conyers, "The Constitution in Crisis", December 2005

PART II

Congressman John Conyers, November 2006:
"As many of you also know, I have agreed with Speaker-to-be Pelosi that impeachment is off the table. Instead, we agree that oversight, accountability and checks and balances - which have been sorely lacking for the last six years - must occur. I have nothing but respect for those who might disagree, but that is where I come out.

"Having devoted a considerable amount of time and attention to detailing the many abuses of the Bush Administration, I firmly believe that we have brought these matters to the attention of the American people and the mainstream media, and that their verdict was reflected in the elections on November 7. I consider the now famous "basement hearings" and the issuance of my "Constitution in Crisis" Report to be among the watershed achievements of my more than forty years in Congress."
-- Congressman John Conyers, November 2006

IF THEY DO

The Associated Press / Ipsos recently polled and reported on this question "How confident are you that President Bush and the Democrats in Congress can work together to solve the country's problems?"

I'm fully confident that anyone who tries to work with Bush will contribute to problems for this and many other countries. I get the impression I'm not alone: Americans just elected dozens of new Democrats and not a single new Republican. I would not have answered the question, had Ipsos asked it of me, because my view of the world was "off the table." The AP could teach Nancy Pelosi a thing or two about removing topics from the table.

Announcing that impeachment is off the table makes it sound like you either have no use for the rule of law and your "investigations" are predetermined charades, or like you are engaged in the same impeachable offense Bush is: lying to the American public (you're taking impeachment off the table, fully aware that it will climb back on as soon as you investigate any of a dozen crimes). You've left impeachment ever more prominently on the table.

Reporting a balanced story on those who do and those who do not worry that the Democrats will fail to work cooperatively with Bush: THAT effectively takes impeachment off the table. While Newsweek just found that a phenomenal 51 percent of Americans want impeachment, AP simply did not ask the question or did not report the results. (Support for impeaching Clinton, when the media and Congress were promoting nothing else, never got above 37 percent.)

The Democrats (and Republicans) can get to impeachment by any of several paths. They can launch an investigation of anything, send subpoenas to the White House, and then raise impeachment when the White House refuses the subpoenas. They can investigate using any number of House and Senate committees or a bipartisan select committee. Waxman or Kucinich could as easily take the lead as Conyers. Or another Democrat, perhaps even a newly elected Democrat, could cut to the chase, introduce articles of impeachment, and become an international hero.

If the Democrats do stand up to tyranny and restore the rule of law to our government, they will not only increase the likelihood of reducing global warming and nuclear proliferation before it's too late, not only bring back habeas corpus and the Bill of Rights, not only make the next war much more difficult to launch, but they will also sweep the 2008 elections and see their leaders admired and loved the world over. Conyers was overwhelmed with support and adulation and contributions when he merely talked about preliminary investigations and the media ignored him. The first Congress Member who supports impeachment will be virtually deified (as well as attacked and ridiculed by a very vocal minority).

So, if the Democrats are playing games until they have their committee chairs, if they're convinced that talking impeachment prior to the "investigations" will lead to fatal attacks from the media, if they're planning to do their jobs and defend our democracy come February, then there is hope for them and for us. And if we force them to take action, then there is hope for us and for them.

IF THEY DON'T

If the Democrats fail to defend the rule of law, if they imagine that we care nothing for our rights and freedoms and merely want them to pass domestic legislation that will be vetoed or signing-statemented, they will do as well in the next elections as they did after they looked the other way on Iran Contra. Pelosi has taken so many things off the table, including the idea of cutting off funding for the war, that she gives the impression of ultimately wanting the stretch out on the table and take a nap. If we allow her and her colleagues to do this, we will let down our nation and the world and we will tell future presidents that no law applies to them.

If the Democrats fail to fight for impeachment and peace, I for one will want nothing further to do with them. Come 2008 I will not vote, or I'll vote for a third party or write in the names of people I respect. I told a great many people in recent months to hold their noses and vote for lousy Democrats so that Conyers could chair Judiciary, and the Democrats could chair every committee, and the subpoenas and articles of impeachment could be placed on the table. If the Democrats refuse to be the opposition party that was just elected, they will be as quickly unelected. If the Democrats and Republicans fail to impeach this President and Vice President, they will remove impeachment from the U.S. Constitution and any remaining faith in our government from the minds of Americans.

I don't think it will come to this. I'm optimistic. And I'm optimistic because the solution to this riddle is not a proper analysis of the mendacity or corruption of Democrats in Congress. The solution is public action. The Democrats in Congress will not act without public pressure. But - unlike the Republican Congress we just rid ourselves of - they will act if there is public pressure. Let's apply it. Here's how: http://www.afterdowningstreet.org

http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2006/2257

You can lead a republican to the truth, but you can't make him think it...

Open letter to Representatives Pelosi and Conyers

Some points she didn't make, but I would.

1/ Impeachment is not punishment, it is removal.

2/ No one has a right to hold office in the United States.

3/ The purpose of the Constitution is to protect the people from the government, not to protect the government from the people.

4/ If we have to fight over this, people will get hurt.

I appreciate this forum.
Frosted Flake

The following two paragraphs are excerpts from an essay posted today on Lew Rockwell,s web site regarding impeachment. I found it thought provoking and offer it for your consideration and debate.

I do not discount for a moment the vicious and wicked deeds of the White House sociopaths who have, with only token objection from others, behaved like drunken SS-officers on a holiday for butchers. But it is time not only for Americans, but for the subjects of other nation-states as well, to look themselves in the face and ask why they have been willing not only to sanction such destructiveness, but to insist upon it as the highest expression of the "greatness" of the society in which they live.

Most Americans have failed to live up to their responsibilities under this alleged "social contract." This includes most Democrats who, throughout these past five years, have done little more than opportunistically await the day that they might recover the White House in order to continue the same statist agenda "under new management." You will not find the Democrats proposing repeal of the Patriot Act - or any of the other recently enacted additions to police-state powers - or the dismantling of the Homeland Security system. Neither will they do what any morally decent person would do in the conduct of a war against wholly innocent people: stop the killing. As Nanci Pelosi has expressed it, more money will be needed for the military, and the troops will be brought home but only after they have achieved victory, rhetoric that differs not one iota from that of George W. Bush. By ~ Butler Shaffer

To read Shaffer,s complete essay, go to: http://www.lewrockwell.com/shaffer/shaffer148.html

Now, if you concur with Mr. Shaffer that it is the American people who are to blame for our government,s atrocities ~ what can we do from here? If not, where do we go from here?